KKK Rally Mocked by a Mighty Clown Army
The people of Knoxville demonstrated one hell of a great way to disrupt and basically neuter a KKK rally. The 100th ARA (Anti Racist Action) clown block came out to cheer them on in their own special way. Here is an excerpt from the days action.
“White Power!” the Nazi’s shouted, “White Flour?” the clowns yelled back running in circles throwing flour in the air and raising separate letters which spelt “White Flour”.
“White Power!” the Nazi’s angrily shouted once more, “White flowers?” the clowns cheers and threw white flowers in the air and danced about merrily.
“White Power!” the Nazi’s tried once again in a doomed and somewhat funny attempt to clarify their message, “ohhhhhh!” the clowns yelled “Tight Shower!” and held a solar shower in the air and all tried to crowd under to get clean as per the Klan’s directions.
At this point several of the Nazi’s and Klan members began clutching their hearts as if they were about to have a heart attack. Their beady eyes bulged, and the veins in their tiny narrow foreheads beat in rage. One last time they screamed “White Power!”
The clown women thought they finally understood what the Klan was trying to say. “Ohhhhh…” the women clowns said. “Now we understand…”, “WIFE POWER!” they lifted the letters up in the air, grabbed the nearest male clowns and lifted them in their arms and ran about merrily chanting “WIFE POWER! WIFE POWER! WIFE POWER!”
Here are a few links to support these people, and remember, to ridicule a hate group in such a creative manner is one great way to take the wind from their sails.
Indymedia Article Link
Knoxville Anti-Rascism
September 7th, 2007 at 10:55 am
I wouldn’t call a cropped photo of 12 idiots the people of Knoxville, but I would call you what you are, “queers”.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
What do they think they’re doing, or rather, what will have changed from them doing this? As far as I can see they’re just putting more attention on the event which is KKKcentric
September 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
This is absolutely awesome, spectacular really. This will work to make the KKK look like what they really are, a bunch of shouting morons.
September 7th, 2007 at 8:47 pm
Genius. Best idea ever
September 7th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
lol@butthurt nazi
September 7th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Ah mockery… the best way to show people how bloody stupid they look when they’re being sincere in their stupidity. Very well done.
September 7th, 2007 at 11:53 pm
its obvious that the author of this article is against the kkk rally and all in all i doubt it had such a profound effect anyway . a couple of people dressed as clowns arent gonna disrupt a rally such as this one and by doing what they did just gave the kkk more publicity .
White FTW
September 8th, 2007 at 12:38 am
wow this is so amazing…its a joke that the KKK still exists, and we need actions like this all throughout the country so that these inbred uneducated bigots who don’t even deserve the title of human being (thats right i pretty much think all the racists in the world are animal retards) should be ridiculed and scoffed right out of our country, b/c if every one of them died, the world would be a much better place
September 8th, 2007 at 1:52 am
Brilliant!!!!!!
Go on th clowns!!!!
Oh and Watcher… Piss of you gay bashing nazi puke ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 8th, 2007 at 2:29 am
what a great idea! how much do you have to suck at life to hate someone you don’t know based on something a person has no control over?? lame, hopefully genetic evolution takes care of these losers soon.
September 8th, 2007 at 2:43 am
Wait, are they Nazis or the KKK, because there’s a difference.
September 8th, 2007 at 4:27 am
Heheee. Nice happening!
A few years ago, sensible people wrecked a neo-nazi march i Denmark by making a mock-sponsorship for it. They arranged donations to humane charities based on the distance the nazis would walk - So every kilometre they marched triggered donations to causes they certainly do not believe in… THAT was excellent!
September 8th, 2007 at 5:27 am
lol spot the rasist everyone!
September 8th, 2007 at 6:10 am
That’s pretty cool. And it’s only one picture so of course you don’t see EVERYTHING, but yay go clowns?
September 8th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
So, I guess Watcher is on the KKK’s side? Fight hate with funny, and show the hate-mongers for what they are–pathetic.
September 8th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Lol!!!
September 8th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
KKK rally???????????????
I thought it was a rally to protest that horrific,god-awful,hate filled,RACIST 2 day multiple rape,torture and mutilation murder of two young White kids by a gang of black criminals?
September 8th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Some years ago, in a Nat’l Geo article about the life of Martin Luther, I read his advice on Satan. It was to laugh at him. This would completely completely stun and confuse him. His pride or ego, is so immense that he can’t conceive that someone would hold him in such low regard as to laugh at him. Entirely appropriate to ridicule this particular kind of evil.
September 9th, 2007 at 9:25 am
You got it, Stephanie M.
We can’t use hate to fight hate.
Let’s all laugh.
September 9th, 2007 at 10:15 am
Intolerance of Intolerance IS Intolerance.
If you believe in free speech or freedom of expression then you must allow everyone, especially people you do not agree with, their right to express themselves their ideas, hate, or love. To stereotype and degrade a group of people because they have different beliefs than you (for example if they are Neo-Nazis) is bigotry. Furthermore to use what you perceive as the flaws, weaknesses, and inadequacies of such a group to elevate your own ego through a sense of superiority is to act exactly as Nazis do.
Unless you respect and understand the beliefs and differences of all other people you are no better than the Nazis you ridicule and degrade with so much hate and misunderstanding.
September 9th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
I can agree with you to a point, truth.
“If you believe in free speech or freedom of expression then you must allow everyone, especially people you do not agree with, their right to express themselves their ideas, hate, or love.”
But the counter-protesters weren’t denying the KKK the right to march or speak. They were simply using their own right to do the same thing. It’s not the clowns fault if the original protesters didn’t have the courage to stick to their (proverbial) guns.
I don’t have to “respect and understand” the beliefs of the KKK. Those beliefs are not worthy of my respect. And if I can shout them down, so much the better. The first amendment simply states that I can’t use the government to shut them down.
September 9th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
Truth? Ha, ha, ha. Making fun of racists because they are unhinged is hardly intolerance. It’s fucking hilarious. And how were anyone’s free speech rights violated here? They were simply countered with other free speech.
Racists are scum and they deserve nothing but absolute ridicule. And they offer absolutely NOTHING to understand or respect. So eat a shit sandwich, Truth, and have a shot of tequila to wash it down.
Idiot.
September 10th, 2007 at 9:09 am
I’m with “truth” here. This bashing of the intolerant is another example of intolerance. I don’t agree with the KKK or their message, but I also don’t support those who stand in the way of people trying to voice their opinions regardless of how controversial they are or how they conflict with my beliefs.
Hypocrisy is running rampant on this page.
September 10th, 2007 at 9:19 am
You’d think differently if you were stripped naked and then dragged behind a pickup with a confederate flag on it down a gravel road. There’s nothing controversial about racism, so shut the fuck up. Fucking moron.
And, AGAIN, no one’s free speech rights were violated here so quit pulling that card and go find a white sheet with a hood.
September 10th, 2007 at 9:33 am
were they illinois nazis? i hate illinois nazis!!
September 10th, 2007 at 9:59 am
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September 10th, 2007 at 10:02 am
Who gave the idiots (read: racists and racist-apologists) Internet access, and why are they commenting here?
You’re fired!
September 10th, 2007 at 10:38 am
Truth & David,
You are both wrong. Yes, the Klan has the right to protest and say whatever they feel. I also have the right to counter-protest, and even ridicule them for their said beliefs.
Free speech works both ways. In fact, it’s the only way that free speech can work.
September 10th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
If somebody comes at you with a knife, is it hypocritical to use violence to defend yourself? I’m sorry, but as a gay man, telling me I should respect the beliefs of people like this (or the more mainstream groups) is kind of ridiculous. Maybe you straight white Christian males can debate about respecting all beliefs, but some of us actually have to deal with this whether we want to or not.
September 12th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
Respecting them is one thing, tolerating them is another. You don’t need to respect their beliefs, hell I certainly don’t. They’re ignorant and stupid as hell. Tolerating them is what should be done. If they want to hold a rally? What happened in Denmark was a great way to make their plans backfire. This demonstration was also pretty good, but I have to say that it did indeed give them a little more publicity. Oh well, I’d definitely help out with something like this anyway.
September 13th, 2007 at 7:32 am
Clown Power! (and I love what Dan said happened in Denmark, too!)
We certainly don’t have to respect the beliefs of any group founded in hate for another group. We do have to respect their right to free speech, and the KKK’s rights were not infringed upon by a counter-rally.
What the clowns did was creative and magnificent.
We have a moral obligation to stand up and be heard whenever these hate groups come to town. If we don’t, then any and all publicity goes to the hate group. By showing up to protest what the KKK stands for, the clowns garnered even more publicity - for their cause, not the KKK’s.
The people who failed to stand up against the Nazi Party in Germany paid a heavy price, and allowed hate to prevail to the level of Holocaust. So, rather than worry about whether a protest only gives the hate group more publicity, let’s remember what the price of silence was in Europe.
September 14th, 2007 at 9:52 am
This is exactly the kind of discussion I was hoping to start, thanks everyone.
My point was not that the first amendment rights of the people involved were violated, nor that the clowns overstepped their own. My point was that most of the posters on this page seem to be full of deeply planted hatred toward these people you call racists and haters. But if you step back and look at this objectively you will see that your hatred is little different from the Klan, or Neo-Nazis: You hate people for holding strong beliefs or a belief system that they have likely been taught their whole lives and that is remarkably different from your own. This is why you hate them. Now remember that the Holocaust was, in large part, an expression of the exact same hatred of people for the same reasons. Jews, and many many other minority religious and ideological groups were persecuted, belittles and eventually murdered simply because they had been brought up with a different belief system and chose to stand by their beliefs. Now I am not suggesting that you all would like to exterminate the KKK members, though many of you likely would, I am just pointing out that the same kind of ideological hatred towards a group with different beliefs that your expressing here is strikingly similar to both their hatred and, as history has shown, hatred that when taken too far can have terrible human consequences.
September 14th, 2007 at 10:23 am
You didn’t start a discussion, truth. You tripped over yourself trying to be Jesus Christ with an ignorant “turn the other cheek” bullshit statement.
First you state:
“If you believe in free speech or freedom of expression then you must allow everyone, especially people you do not agree with, their right to express themselves their ideas, hate, or love.”
Then you state:
“My point was not that the first amendment rights of the people involved were violated, nor that the clowns overstepped their own.”
Either you aren’t capable of scrolling a web page to review your original statement, or you’re back peddling. I’m guessing the latter.
And you are also suggesting that it’s not okay to hate KKK members just because they have “different beliefs.” Um…last time I checked, being brutally beaten to death has nothing to do with beliefs. Here’s a KKK murder for you:
I guess you’re right. These people are okay. We shouldn’t mock them in their rally, because they deserve the right to be heard.
You are a fucking moron. Plain and simple. This has NOTHING to do with free speech or wanting to respect differences in other people. This is about your being an ignorant fool. Give it up, shitface.
September 14th, 2007 at 11:07 am
History itself has defined the KKK (with plenty of documentation) as a group of murderous cowards. I submit to this “argument” that it is ok to fight these people in any way possible, as I for one do not intend to allow them to kill again based on their precious “beliefs”. Perhaps it is wrong to hate people solely based on their beliefs, that is an argument that has little place in this discussion, and would be better placed on some KKK forum don’t ya think? The fact that this creative group of people turned a hateful demonstration into a comedic event, only throws the last bit of water on your misplaced “argument” or should i say recruitment attempt? Please thank these delightful clowns for their cunning bravery in confronting this hate group head on for you as you sit in your isolated bubble pondering the “truth”…that is unless you are a KKK troll. As far as any arguments about publicity go, I’d say the clowns got much more publicity than the sheets.
September 14th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
white power, niggers.
September 15th, 2007 at 4:33 am
Truth drooled and spouted:
“Now remember that the Holocaust was, in large part, an expression of the exact same hatred of people for the same reasons.”
The mass murder, attempted annihilation, of a group(s) of people for beliefs and not their actions is now just an “expression”? The simple manifestation of an ignorant thought process?
It’s an act and a huge leap from simple thought. Anyone associating themselves with like groups, groups with a history of violence towards people for thinking different, says loud and clear, if with somewhat clouded judgement, that they support what has been done in the past. They condone it and are likely ready to be part of the next round of assault on innocents.
That’s why, while I’ll respect them on a very basic human level, I will never associate with Christians, Muslims, or Vegans either.
September 17th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
my name is truth and i’m a big tool. i like to raise questions like, why is it okay to hate hate groups because they are hate groups? wouldn’t that make you a group of haters? furthermore i’m a douche. who’s to say that hate as a belief is any lesser than love, after all, in the words of the late bill hicks: “I just think it’s interesting to see how people act on their beliefs, you know what I mean? ‘Cause your beliefs, they’re just that, they’re nothin’, there’s how you were taught, and raised. That doesn’t make ‘em real…. realize that everything you learned is in fact just learned, and not necessarily true.” each person who experiences self righteousness should be humble and realize that there is no one-truth in the universe, and that all beliefs by there very nature are neither correct nor in error.
i’m a big farty pants.
September 18th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Truth/untruth:
Quit your crying. Don’t start defending the rights of hate groups—who’s rights haven’t even been violated—and then whine because people get on your case.
This series of events can be summed up pretty quickly:
1. Evil people who kill others based on the color of their skin hold a rally.
2. Good natured people crash the rally and make fun of them.
3. A newspaper reports about it.
4. Pork Banana blogs about the article.
5. You cry because KKK members have a right to express themselves.
6. You are rightfully taunted and made fun of because you are, indeed, a douche.
7. You cry again because you say you didn’t say what you said.
8. You are again cursed to hell.
9. You again cry and mock other people because you are, indeed, a douche.
Who’s a douche? Huh? Come on, truth. Good boy. Go get your ball. Get it. Good boy.
September 19th, 2007 at 12:28 am
Wow! You must be american. It never ceases to amaze me how close minded and utterly devoid of reason people who consider themselves “liberal” can be. This guy “truth” tries to raise something for intelligent discussion and all you have is contempt and ignorance. “my name is truth and i’m a big tool” “truth drooled and spouted” WTF are you people under 12.
September 19th, 2007 at 7:26 am
to captain obvious. everyone is a “douche” this includes you. so while truth is running to get the ball because your to lazy to play fetch.. i guess you can get this doggy snack.
P.S. i didnt read anything. i just see people talking shit.. and was bored. so i felt i must degrade myself at this moment and go down to their lvl of idiosy by talking crap here… ahhhh.. the joys of the internet. able to speak ones mind and not give a shit what others think. being able to think your right and no one else is.
one of the oldest phrases around.. wich i still love to this day
“Argueing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics, doesnt matter wether you win or loose, your still retarted”
fact is
KKK used their right to get together and speak their mind..
the clowns did the very same thing
KKK didnt like it and got pissed
clowns thought it was funny and continued to mock the KKK
KKK isnt right with all their racist BS.. but in this instance, neither were the ARA or what every they are called. but both groups still got to speak their minds as they wanted to.
two wrongs dont make a rite… but in the world we live in.. a wrong leads to a wrong, leading to more wrongs.. gets a rite somewhere in there.. but everything is still fucked up
its a fucked up world we live in. to many wrongs to count, not enough rites, everyone speaks their mind.. and people get pissy about it.
oh well.. thats the world we live in.. and the internet we serf =D
September 19th, 2007 at 7:48 am
its amazing how blind most of the posters here are…
truth raises a good point, you all hate them so much that you are no better than them, in fact there were posts mentioning killing them all?
would you really want to exterminate the KKK? where would it end? after the KKK do you kill all the neo-nazis and other groups?
what then? kill the tree-huggers for stopping logging?
where do you stop, once you start exterminating groups of individuals for expressing their beliefs?
who decides who’s beliefs are good and who’s are evil?
is it the government?
September 19th, 2007 at 8:33 am
Who said the clowns “hate” the KKK? Your assumptions betray you. “truth” raised an obvious, no so clever point, which no one really argues with, along with initially some completely false accusation about people’s freedom of speech being truncated in some way, in an attempt (one can only guess) to get people to feel sympathy for the KKK or at least question what their beliefs actually are. People shouldn’t hate other people because of their beliefs…duh. Again I suppose I must re-state it’s because of their actions on their beliefs that they demand and receive confrontation.
“who decides who’s beliefs are good an evil”
The beliefs of the KKK are well known because of their actions which are well documented…which anyone as an apologist or a recruitment specialist will probably argue is totally fictitious. I tend to believe the documentation.
*as far as the abusive nature of some folks goes, I am allowing pretty much all comments here that are not spam, Liberal and Conservative groups are made up of all types…to state you are “shocked” that some “Liberals” are narrow minded, or might be using language which offends you is laughable. Read ANY boards on either side of the great debate between “Liberals and Conservatives”, you’ll find plenty of slop, potty, and immaturity. The Internet is full of youthful indiscretion, which is of course part of it’s charm. Oh yeah, stop using the labels the rich and powerful want you to use, in order to divide the populace. People can and should have both liberal and conservative views on issues.
September 19th, 2007 at 10:44 am
While I agree that freedom of speech should be protected, the fact that there may have been one person in the crowd who was on the edge of ascribing to the KKK philosophy of hatred, and whose mind was changed by the actions of the clowns says it all for me. These clowns are heroes in my book!
September 19th, 2007 at 11:13 am
Who said I was liberal? And what does this conversation have to do with politics?
No, over 12 because I can add a question mark to the end a sentence I capitalized.
I indeed may be a douche, but at least I’m a douche who won’t defend people who murder other people for fun and to promote extermination. And thanks for your valuable participation.
Yeah, let’s compare murderers with comedians. Good call.
Oh, you’re a real winner. Again, let’s equate hate crimes with comedy. Making fun of people who commit racially-motivated murder isn’t two wrongs. Let’s just say for the sake of argument that Timothy McVeigh was announcing his intent to bomb a building and some clowns showed up on the other side of the street to make fun of him. Still two wrongs?
Hey there, tangent. How’s it going? I don’t recall saying anything about “exterminating groups of individuals.” Did I say that? No, fuck wad, I said the ARA had a right to make fun of them. I also said that no one’s free speech was violated here. That’s my point. I’m not condoning murder, I’m saying the ARA had every right to do what they did and that truth can shut the hell up about how the poor little KKK members weren’t allowed to express themselves, which in fact they were. They were simply outnumbered by smarter, louder people.
Truth says “If you believe in free speech or freedom of expression then you must allow everyone, especially people you do not agree with, their right to express themselves their ideas, hate, or love.” Um…they were allowed their right to express themselves.
Truth says “To stereotype and degrade a group of people because they have different beliefs than you (for example if they are Neo-Nazis) is bigotry.” Well, then, I guess we’re all bigots when it comes to murder and rape, right? So we shouldn’t be bigots when it comes to a rapist, because he simply “believes” that women are evil and need to pay a price. It’s just our beliefs that differ, right?
Good question. Then (again) racially-motivated murder is just something we should live with, I guess. Certainly we can’t declare KKK murders as an act of “evil,” right? Because then we’d be drawing a line, and that would be bad. And the poor, rights-restricted murderers would have to go home and cry because someone yelled louder than them on the street corner. Boo-fucking-hoo.
September 19th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Unfortunately too many people are closed minded. The Klan has the right to believe what they believe and they have the right to hold rallies. Quite frankly they are the only group of people in this country fighting for what’s right. They no longer preach hate really. Just equal rights. It’s the minority groups trying to get special treatment that are the real problem.
September 19th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
I’ll bet that when you eat your shit sandwich on Wonder Bread you truly enjoy it. You might even lick your own anus for dessert.
September 19th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
“Unfortunately too many people are closed minded. The Klan has the right to believe what they believe and they have the right to hold rallies. Quite frankly they are the only group of people in this country fighting for what’s right. They no longer preach hate really. Just equal rights. It’s the minority groups trying to get special treatment that are the real problem.”
Wow.
Wow.
September 19th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Hey Steve, they were chanting “white power.” Did you miss that part?
September 19th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
wow this is so amazing…its a joke that the KKK still exists, and we need actions like this all throughout the country so that these inbred uneducated bigots who don’t even deserve the title of human being (thats right i pretty much think all the racists in the world are animal retards) should be ridiculed and scoffed right out of our country, b/c if every one of them died, the world would be a much better place
To “Mike” of September 8th
I’m pretty sure opinion is a right still? Yes I agree that times are different but honestly “animal retards” now lets grow up (using a meantl handicap as an insult)
Some one listen too their liberal parents a bit too much.
And yes your right true racism is not funny.
September 19th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Ha fucking Ha the editor of this article is a fucktard Nazi and KKK are two totally different groups and all the people on this forum that are saying how the KKK kills people…uhm yeh like decade or two ago lets looked at the last murder from this group…exactly shut the fuck up
September 19th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
to “truth”:
Intolerance itself is not inherently a bad thing. Unjustified intolerance, a staple of racists, is inherently a bad thing. (Justice and justification being inherently good things, and lack of justification and injstice being inherently bad things)
I do not have to tolerate anything the KKK says or believes in order to respect the united states’ bill of rights. I can’t stop them from expressing their views, but there’s no guarantee anywhere of security from counter-expression on any level, and there’s certainly no guarantee of compliance or agreement with their statements or expressions.
The basic reason racism is bad is that it attaches negative attributes to people who in truth don’t necessarily have those attributes. If people are rallying in public behind that particular belief, then it is clear that they either hold that belief or actively support it themselves. If holding said belief makes a person less benevolent in your eyes, then you are perfectly justified in saying so to anyone in that whole group (the one rallying behind the belief in question). These citizens of Knoxville did just that by mocking the KKK.
September 19th, 2007 at 11:40 pm
I only want to argue with people who can spell and use correct grammar and punctuation. If you don’t do these things, you come across as an idiot. First step, capital letters come at the beginning of a sentence.
The internet - making people stupid since 1856.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:23 am
Anyone remember the Henry Rollins spoken word bit titled ‘Klan Chaos Disruption Team’? The basic tenet was that, if he was president, he would organize people to do exactly this: the Klan would march any and everywhere they wanted to, but alongside clowns on tricycles, jugglers, openly gay men in provocative costumes, and all sorts of other things designed solely to see how was sillier…
September 20th, 2007 at 12:25 am
also, @ Erik: you’re right, Nazis and Klansmen are different breeds of racist. That being said, ‘decades ago’? It’s no big deal now, it’s been a few years. Remember that there is no statute of limitations concerning murder.
September 21st, 2007 at 5:50 am
What if pedophiles were to hold a rally? How right would that be? I mean, they too are entitled to their own beliefs, aren’t they? We must be tolerant and try to understand and tolerate such “differences”… What would you say then, truth?
Also, Captain Obvious, I am truly surprised that someone who can make so much sense in some of their statements can also resort to such plain and lowly insults including suggestions of eating own shit. Care to explain?
September 21st, 2007 at 9:09 am
I didn’t realize there was either a legal or ethical statue of limitations on murder. How many of these murderers were never prosecuted and continue to walk in KKK rallies? Water under the bridge, right? Wrong.
Thank you, Kirk.
This indeed may have been the source of inspiration for the ARA.
Exactly my point, Marina.
Sure. But only because you’ve (inadvertently) offered a compliment with your observation. I have a history with rebellion and teenage angst, but I was “saved” when I found a love for the power of eloquence in written and spoken word. Alas, I can’t shake the sailor mouth as I have a parallel love for the sound of foul phrases. It’s a dichotomy I’m doomed to retain for the rest of my life.
September 22nd, 2007 at 7:06 pm
You guys are idiots if you can’t see what the point of actions such as this are. They are mocking them in PUBLIC. How much trouble do you think these rednecks will have finding more members if they get publicly humiliated everytime they go out to burn a cross or shout out quotes from mein kampf.
September 24th, 2007 at 3:02 am
The whole point of this is: You have the right to free expression, nobody can take that away from you. That being said, you shouldn’t open your mouth unless your prepared to deal with a bigger mouth that has an opposing viewpoint. I think the half-assed statements that Truth made weren’t necessarily founded in bigotry, maybe he had good intentions, but good intentions don’t excuse ignorance. We don’t have to accept these people, just like they choose not to accept anyone who isn’t a racist, white christian male or his submissive, brain-washed wife and kids. A group that hates hate-groups is a hate-group though. You wanna make a really funny statement? Have guys in tight black leather and high heels start tickling the Klanners with the ends of riding crops and flirting with them. ROFLMAO!
September 25th, 2007 at 8:50 pm
Wow. I stumbled upon this site and the comments have been interesting to say the least.
“A group that hates hate-groups is a hate-group though.” There’s quite a difference though. Like if the cause is righteous and in response to a hate group. So if the aforementioned Pedophile Group holds a rally and I go out there and “hate” per se, I’m gonna be okay with that.
Okay, someone please make me laugh some more now. thanks.
September 26th, 2007 at 10:58 am
Well I agree with the clowns, but as I do not live in Knoxville, I hope that the local media didn’t skew the story to shed a pseudo positive light on the KKK.
September 28th, 2007 at 11:21 am
In response to ”Mike ” Sept 8th.
You attack the KKK, which is fine, but you use the term ”Retards” so maybe you need to examine your own attitudes
September 29th, 2007 at 2:59 am
although i love the idea and think that the KKK is truly wrong and hurtful to the good citizens of the world it is strange to ponder on the ideal that people exclude the KKK in a country born from free speech, its being fascist towards, well, fascists. strange.
i personally hate political correctness which has increased 1000 fold under the Labour government over here in the UK, it is ridiculous that i cannot celebrate Christmas as i might upset an ethnic minority. Firstly, they are the minority, there is a reason why the majority has more people in it. And secondly, they came into the country, adapt to our culture, and we’ll accept you openhearted, i have no problem with people celebrating rammadan and wearing head scarves and the like, but when it intrudes on the culture they have immigrated to, it is always, under every circumstance wrong.
October 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 am
Those of you saying that people against the KKK are just as bad for hating them want to listen to themselves!!! By condoning their atitudes and actions it is YOU who is as bad as they are!!! No body says we all have to get along in this world but no one should have the right to ridicule someone and kill people on the basis of their race - noone chooses to be whatever race they are, they are just born into it……should they be killed because of that? No race is better than any other - if you all think they are then tell me why? Ignorance breeds ignorance and I pity your children if you inflict your sick, warped acceptance of racism onto them.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:26 pm
“these inbred uneducated bigots who don’t even deserve the title of human being (thats right i pretty much think all the racists in the world are animal retards) should be ridiculed and scoffed right out of our country, b/c if every one of them died, the world would be a much better place”
“Racists are scum”
“Who gave the idiots (read: racists and racist-apologists) Internet access, and why are they commenting here?”
Long live tolerance!
Nobody is comparing the acts of the KKK to the acts of the ARA, and from the sound of it truth (I can’t help but imagine that guy from GTA sitting at a computer) wasn’t even talking about the ARA, he was talking about the people on this and other boards saying things like the above quotes.
“Racists” do not exist. Some people, because of their upbringing, personal experiences, peer groups and education, hold racist views to more or less of an extent. In fact, probably everyone in the world holds some views that someone else would class as bigoted. Opinions & beliefs can be racist, to use the word to describe a person is meaningless - how do you determine racism? What level of racism on a scale of 1-10 makes one a racist? 1? 10? Some arbitrary figure in between?
The mindset that some posters (including myself) are analogising to racism is the idea that a particular group of people is to be pigeonholed, hated, stereotyped and blamed for everything that is wrong in the world.
October 3rd, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Oh really? Hey, that’s an excellent question for a great philosophical debate. We should sit down and decide whether or not people are racist and if so on what level. Because that’s what really matters here. After all it’s “meaningless” to label a person a racist.
So are the white students at Jena High School in Louisiana who hung nooses as a warning for black students who sat under “the white tree” racist? I guess not, because racists don’t exist. Right? Oh, it’s just a mindset because of their upbringing and personal experiences. Okay, got it.
But wait, those KKK members at the rally were shouting “white power.” That kind of statement is pretty acceptable, right? Well, in any case that kind of statement certainly wouldn’t be spewed from a racist. Because racists don’t exist.
I’m sorry to break it to you, John, but racists do indeed exist. They’re more than mere boogeymen. And some of the most notorious racists in America are called the Ku Klux Klan. Others are blind, John. And some of the least notorious but equally ignorant are called people who post statements on blogs that claim racists do not exist.
Right, right. Okay. So the aforementioned white students at Jena High School aren’t causing any problems. I seem to have missed the part where anyone blamed them for all the problems in the world. But I do seem to recall that they did cause a big fucking problem, John. A problem created because they are racist. And they do exist. Or maybe you think it isn’t a big deal? Maybe Robert Bailey Junior, Theo Shaw, Carwin Jones, Bryant Purvis and Mychal Bell are the racists?
John. I’m sorry, but you are imperceptive. Look around, man. Look around.
October 3rd, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Tolerance of intolerant murderers is intolerable.
@John
Why was it you chose to exclude the “white power niggers” or the “queers” comments from your list of intolerant comments above? Just curious, did you feel those were tolerant, or did you simply let them slide because you agree with them? Maybe they felt so natural they just slipped on by eh? Let’s try to include ALL the intolerant comments so we don’t seem too openly biased when we try to make our rambling circular psuedo intellectual arguments to pollute the real issue here that the KKK preaches white power and murders people ok?
One way you earn the dishonorable title of “racist” is to support a group that has murdered people to satisfy their “racist views”, is that good enough for your scale? It’s a 10 in my book. I blame the KKK for that…not all the ills of the world, they are not remotely competent enough for that task, after all they did just get owned by a group of “queers” in clown costumes…
October 3rd, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Obvious - please read everything I said, obviously racism exists, I merely said that it’s meaningless to refer to a -person- as racist, as opposed to specific views that they hold.
Rswelling - I didn’t include those quotes because they’re obviously bigoted, I didn’t think it was up for debate. I would appreciate it if you didn’t level accusations of intolerance at me based on no evidence whatsoever just to get a rise out of me or dismiss my opinions. I have no respect whatsoever for the views, and nothing but contempt for the actions of the KKK, I just prefer to look at any social issue from a rational, non-reactionary standpoint. If “pseudo-intellectual” is the best I can manage, I’ll just have to live with that.
October 3rd, 2007 at 5:08 pm
Well at least this time you addressed the issue which SHOULD BE THE VIEWS OF THE KKK AND HOW TO STOP THEM. You have no respect for the views of the KKK, you simply want to research, and debate the word racism…on a web board posting which seeks to honor the actions of some people fighting against the KKK in a creative manner, by attacking the people here for being too angry and intolerant of the KKK. Good luck! I’m glad my implied accusations got you to attempt to clarify your post.
October 3rd, 2007 at 6:42 pm
To CaptainObvious - Yay for potty mouthed smart people!!!! So far you’re the only person on here that’s made me laugh and think at the same time. Everyone else has just made me laugh and then get pissed. Thank you for doing what you do!
October 4th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Well I’m glad you’re glad. Personally I’ve always preferred “Sorry, I don’t understand your point. Could you clarify it?”, but if ‘implied’ accusations of bigotry work for you, have fun with that.
I should also mention, which I forgot to after getting carried away having a go at some of the existing comments, that the clown thing = f*ing genius. Reminds me of a story I read (possibly in Freakonomics - not sure) about a “Superman Vs the KKK” radio show that had kids all over the country putting pillowcases on their heads so their friends in red underwear could beat them up, much to certain fathers’ angry embarrassment…
October 4th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Ok I take back my implied bigotry, please accept my apologies…I’m still waiting for you to explain why anyone should be tolerant of the KKK.
>Long live tolerance!
October 5th, 2007 at 8:47 am
You know what’s more fun than mistakenly calling someone a bigot? Troll the internet looking for threads about the kkk so you can jump into a heated discourse and choose to call out a few people for having a strong reaction towards them, you know, instead of reading the story, and praising the people who are fighting them on the front lines. It’s fun and i guess it makes you look smarter than those apparently mis-directed firebrands…Then try to muddy the discourse further with some diatribe about how there are no racists, only people with racist views…you have fun with that…Don’t forget to act all butt hurt when someone mistakes you for a bigot, that’s apparently most fun of all.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:03 am
Mateenisis: It’s no nice to hear “yay for potty-mouthed smart people!!!” I wish more people had potty mouths. Cuss words are so fucking beautiful, and the enrich the character of our already piquant language.
October 5th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
Rswelling (who else?): And for nearly a day it was all so cordial. Perhaps if I really spent my time “trolling the internet” I’d have seen and replied to your earlier comment and you wouldn’t have felt the need to get personal. OK, let’s see…
1. I accept your apology and we can forget about the bigot thing.
2. What gives you the idea I was looking for threads about the KKK? I got here via the magic of Stumbleupon, as it happens.
3. I understand some of the comments I mentioned originally were strong reactions in a heated discourse; I don’t think that invalidates my point, and I wasn’t trying to look smarter than anyone. If -you- thought I did, thanks!
4. I praised the ARA in my last post, and explained how I always intended to before getting sidetracked. I did so because I actually agree with them though, not out of some enemy-of-my-enemy obligation. Incidentally, I did read the story. Test me if you like.
5. I’m not sure how a few questions about how people react to racism, and why people hold bigoted views, is muddying a discussion about racism.
6. Your earlier question about tolerating the KKK - I was only referring to tolerance in the sense that if you start telling certain groups they aren’t allowed to speak publicly, you’re on a slippery slope, and that to get anywhere with dangerous groups you have to be willing to talk to them - just look at Northern Ireland.
7. My butt’s fine, ta.
Everyone else: I looked up that radio show; apparently an activist called Stetson Kelly (great name) infiltrated the Klan and found out all their rituals, secret passwords etc, and the producers included them in the show. Theres a bit about it here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Superman_%28radio%29#.E2.80.9CClan_of_the_Fiery_Cross.E2.80.9D
Not sure how effective it was, but a pretty original method nonetheless.
October 5th, 2007 at 5:51 pm
> I praised the ARA in my last post, and explained how I always intended to before getting sidetracked
After i called you out on it yeah…
>Your earlier question about tolerating the KKK - I was only referring to tolerance in the sense that if you start telling certain groups they aren’t allowed to speak publicly
This has been addressed numerous times here in this thread…pretty sure no one who’s thinking believes they shouldn’t have the right to speak out, it’s a non issue, they have the right to speak out. This is not a vague argument about some fictional group. You listed a bunch of comments from angry people on one side of the argument and suggested they should be tolerant of the KKK. I disagree. ANYWAY this is boring and we’re basically on the same side of the argument, thanks for that link it was really interesting.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Wow, now we’ve stopped arguing it’s like no-one else has anything to say…
October 16th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Well good for the KKK and all the white pride and white POWER organizations. They are standing up 4 the rights of whites in this country, which are getting trampled all over by this crooked Jew infested government.
White people are the most discriminated race in the world these days. Black people say black power! or black is beautful, and people cheer them , pat em’ on the back. White man says white pride or white power they wanna throw them in jail, oo thats terrible! U shouldn’t be proud 2 be white!!! NO WAY!! U evil white people. What is this world coming 2.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:56 am
awesome, go clowns!!!!
October 29th, 2007 at 5:00 am
I don´t think this clown thing gave the KKK publicity, it just shows how they are, a bunch of ignorant retards.
November 5th, 2007 at 6:11 am
What a great way to make a stand. I love it. :0)
November 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Posting in an epic comment thread.
November 9th, 2007 at 10:10 am
I love threads like this. Capt. Obvious, yelling at people is never going to get your point across. John, I think there are more pressing matters than the semantics of the word “racist.” rswelling, don’t you have something better to do?
Additionally, the point about how racists “don’t exist” is funny. When my little sister was 3 years old, she very boldly announced that old people aren’t real. Hilarious, but obviously false. Saying that there are no racists doesn’t make it so.
Also, truth’s comment about how intolerance of intolerance is intolerance is true. Do yo remember the phrase, “Hate only breeds more hate?” I don’t support the KKK in any way, shape, or form. I sincerely wish that such ignorant thought processes never came into existence. But now that they have, we must deal with it. Mock them, argue with them, criticize them, but they still have the right to say what ever they want. Ultimately, they are responsible for their actions. But so are you. You can’t blame your actions on their intolerance. What they do is wrong, but advocating the extermination of KKK members and Neo-Nazis is wrong also. Murder is murder, no matter what the reasons and NO human EVER has the right to determine if another has the right to live or die.
Also, don’t fool yourself into thinking that you can actually change what anyone else believes. To quote someone I respect very much, “You’re entitled to your opinion, even if it’s wrong.” They may, in some distant future, find that what they believe is wrong. But it will happen because they have experienced something that so completely affected them that it changed their very thought patterns. It will NOT happen because you had an argument with them. But remember that by the same token, it may one day happen that you will learn to hate someone because of the color of their skin or their ideological point of view.
In response to the person who posted about not wanting to associate themselves with Christians, Muslims, Vegans, etc., be sure you aren’t confusing fundamentalism and radicalism with the actual beliefs of the religion or group. Christianity and Islam don’t preach violence. They preach peace. Vegans don’t believe in violence or anything strange. They just don’t think you should be eating animals or animal byproducts. Don’t judge an entire group of people based on a few fanatics.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:08 am
Unfortunately since this is my website…and my post…no, I have to moderate the comments to keep out the spam. Thanks for the insult though, you seem to have quite a bit of time on your own hands. It is a rather ridiculous thread at this point.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:46 am
why don’t you multicultists go down to the ghetto some night…
you will wish some kkk guys were with you.
the event, the demonstrtion ws held for the two victims of rcist negros.
the scum in dresses mocked the deth of two humn beings.
ps. some keys on my comp dont work….sorry.
“HUMAN LAW CANCELS OUT STATE LAW” ADOLPH HITLER.
YOU THINK YOU’RE SECURE….. KEEP BSHING WHITE PEOPLE…..
KEEP UP YOUR MRXIST SHIT….. DONT FORGET THE KKK LOVES GUNS….
HIPPIES DON’T….NOT GOOD FOR HIPPIES WHEN THE TIME TO SETTLE UP COMES…. FUCK YOU …..
November 20th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
This post… HAHA … oh God.. what good entertainment..
Oh and whoever doesnt think that the KKK is full of assholes, is kidding themselves. Whoever you are, they hate you. They hate everyone and would kill you if given the chance. Its simple survival to want to fight back, you dont have to be ashamed of saying that the KKK is pathetic and disgusting.
P.S. I am a white male… and let the hating begin!
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:39 pm
I always wondered why when white people are/might be racist or hold some white supremest meeting (I am of heavily mixed descent) It makes some news post/channel? However when other races such as African/Americans do the same thing its black pride and not racism at all. How come other races get to be just as filled with anger and hatred such as the Yahweh cult and trust me thats not an isolated incident.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:29 am
I’m sorry, but a lot of people here seem to be in favour of the rally, or are trying to justify it. That is ridiculous. There is no way to justify racist, outdated, horrible vies. I am white, but I would never think of my colour as superiority in the way that the KKK do. They are disgusting creatures, and defending them makes you as bad as they are. Stop trying to be on the side of the horrendous pathetic assholes that are the KKK. Its perfectly reasonable to have a go at the KKK - trying to empathise with them just makes you sound like a cock too.
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:05 pm
KKK are the stupidest people ever. They make National Socialists look like rocket scientists by comparison. Er, not talking about Jewish rocket scientists here, but good Aryan ones… oh, sod it.
December 10th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Anyone who would say this is pointless must be somehow unfamiliar with how the KKK was robbed of a great deal of power back in the day. You guys ever hear of SUPERMAN? Yes, well originally the radio broadcast of superman used to use terms that the KKK used in order to ridicule them. That’s just what happened, many members felt ridiculous to be associated with some kind of a fairy tale and enrollment sharply dropped. P.S. to be a queer you would have to be strange, I guess because I’m not a hick being a nazi seems more queer to me than being a clown. And if you were trying to call the clows gay, you’re also wrong because being gay involves loving a member of your own sex, not dressing like a clown. But, nice try anyway, go back to your school yard and push around the other fourth graders, deutsche bag. And honestly if you really buy into the whole “let people be rascist or your impeding free speech” deal, then you should really stop watching FOX 5 NEWS. There’s a difference between ruining free speech and being intolerant to ignorance. I really can’t believe there are still people out there who think race actually makes you different, other than the superficial qualities, than anyone else. I guess I am INTOLERANT TO IGNORANCE, and I would prefer to keep it that way. Yeah and about the Jew comment, Jews still can’t even get into country clubs during peak hours. When’s the last time you saw a Jew sitting at the president’s desk? You really think that jews run the world? You’ve got to be shitting me, there are hardly any jewish CEOs. Look at the world’s top ten richest men. And c’mon, find me a law that’s anti white… the only one that I know you dumbass bigots are going to shoot for is affirmative action. Before you do, I should let you know that the only example of affirmative action that is used in this country is in our prison systems, where blacks are over represented not because they commit more crimes, but because they are more likely to go to jail for the same crimes that white kids wont go to jail for. Also a couple more things you guys should know…
1) Jews don’t have horns
2) You create the jew so that you have someone to make you feel better about what a shitty person you actually are, because how can you be bad if the “jew is the evil one” (Jean Paul-Sartre)
3) You may be more genetically similar to a person from africa than a person from your country of origin
4) The only difference between races are genes that code for skin color, eye shape, etc… the same ones that code for different hair colors, eye colors, etc… but do not affect intelligence or performance in any way
5) Any statistic you try to quote about a race generally misrepresents the control group and the variable group, so you should avoid those one liner thing you use to prove that race superiority exists
and finally
6) We are all living on a spec sooooooo tiny that if everyone on this post died tomorrow, nothing would matter and the universe would still go on. So get over yourselves, smoke up with your manses and chill the fuck out. We are human beings and everyone has the universal right to just chill. If you think you dont like black people, try making a black friend, you might be surprised at how much you (on a personality, and not socialized scale) have in common.
December 16th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Well put Chris ; That comment couldn’t have been put in any other better way
January 13th, 2008 at 5:31 am
Awesome and inspired!!! From across the big pond I salute you..
This article will be sent al over the world and inspire others to get out there and oppose bigotry in a spirit of fun and more important ‘power’
Well done the clowns!
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:01 am
I personally think that being bigoted against bigots is pretty much the only acceptable form of bigotry there is. The paradox is divine.
I take pride in both my bigotry, and my hypocrisy. I am a bigot because I hate bigots, and devoutly believe they should all be tossed alive into a deep pit with a lot of saltpeter.
We can take bets on who survives the longest, and use the funds for humanitarian charity donations.
If people need something to hate, why not hate itself? You ever notice how you never read about racists being strung up in trees for being racist? Why do you suppose that is? Perhaps hatred of bigotry is a gentler form of hatred. Or perhaps no one cares when it happens.
March 26th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Brilliant Strategy. I will support the clowns. Genius.